Faith Formation In A Secular Age

An Interview With Andrew Root

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Faith Formation In A Secular Age: A Conversation with Dr. Andrew Root

Andrew Root is the Carrie Olson Baalson Professor of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota. He is perhaps best known for his work in youth ministry. But he is an eclectic and prolific writer, writing on a wide range of topics, including congregational ministry, personal relationships, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and even a book on dogs. He is most recently the author of a three volume “Ministry in a Secular Age” series with the following titles: The Congregation in a Secular AgeThe Pastor in a Secular Age, and Faith Formation in a Secular AgeI sat down with Dr. Root for episode 13 of the Avenue for Faith podcast.

Q: Andrew, what is this contemporary moment you write about?

It’s really fascinating. This big study just came out: it’s less than 50% of people go to church. So the tipping point of America being a secular society has maybe already happened. Or if people in churches are already worried about that—this shows it. In the last two years they have lost percentage points. So what the books are trying to name is “what does it really mean to be in a secular age?” Secular is a slippery word. Everyone has a definition for it. “Fewer people are going to church” is, I think, a red herring when it comes to people on the ground doing ministry. And what it really means to be in this contemporary moment and live in this kind of secular age is that all belief, and particularly some kind of commitment to a transcendent God who acts and speaks in the world becomes more and more unbelievable to people. It becomes harder for people to recognize—even people who have historical connections to faith. According to Charles Taylor, we now inherent this “immanent frame.” His point is the default setting of our imaginations now—whether we are someone who goes to church or not—our default setting is immanence as opposed to transcendence. It’s this idea that everything is natural and material as opposed to there being a Divine supernatural force that moves within the world, or a God who stands within and outside the world and calls us to something. And so I think this is the real challenge. It’s not just the challenge of the church losing resources; it’s the challenge of how do leaders within the church help people recover an imagination and a vision for a God who lives, and speaks, and moves in their lives.

Q: What are the cultural challenges to youth ministry in this time?

The way the youth group has functioned within Protestant congregational youth ministry—there are some pretty strong cultural forces that stand against it. There is a great temptation to think of how can we program our youth ministries, how do we make them more attractive to people, as opposed to thinking of maybe being about something deeper than just trying to get people connected to the program. For middle class parents, what keeps them up at night is not “will my kids have an experience of a sacrament that will be a big thing? Will they come to have saving knowledge of the mystical universe?” What they really care about is “will my kid get into college? Will they be able to get a good job in a very contracting economy? How do we get them on the varsity basketball team? How do we get test scores up?” Those become what keep them awake at night.

Q: What are some solutions to pivoting in how we approach ministry to youth?

As our moral imagination shifts, so do our forms or even models of ministry. Going back to the 70’s (or even post-war protestant America), the way of parenting was to let kids have free space. If asked “how are our kids doing,” the answer was “they have a lot of free time, and a lot of free space, and we worry they are growing up too fast.” That is pretty much every 1980’s teen movie there is—all these young people racing to grow up faster. So the youth group came along as a way to slow kids down, and give them something to do with all that time they had. But the good parent was the parent who stayed out of their kid’s life.

But that really did flip into the 21st century. The parents who grew up in “fast times” did not think it was a good way to raise their kids, and we have had a completely different kind of moral imagination. We don’t want our kids to have free space. Instead we want to journey with our kids and really open up doors for them, and give them access to a real buffet of things they can be involved in. And those things can accrue resources for them so they can live whatever dream they want in the future; but our job is to really accompany them at all times. And you get helicopter parents or bulldozing parents—these kind of “best friend” parents who are with their kids almost all the time. And so now we are seeing a really radical flip. It’s not that young people are growing up to fast; at least some of the scientific research shows they are actually growing up—compared to earlier generations—much more slow. The forms of youth ministry we have are really built for these “fast times,” built for parents who are permissive and unconnected. Where we are at now is parents who are very much monitoring and very concerned with being with their kids at all times.

So maybe some of our forms of youth ministry have to change. For me, one of the things that means is that maybe the “end” of the youth group; or the youth group becomes not the every week thing, but more the quarterly thing. That maybe we need to think differently about how we cohort young people up. I think what young people need is not a space run by young people, led by basically young people, but they need to be in communities with adults who are testifying to the presence and absence of God in their life, who are wrestling with the Biblical text, who are praying with them and being prayed for by them.

Excerpts from Episode 13 of the Avenue for Faith podcast, titled “Faith Formation In A Secular Age.” Available on all podcast platforms.

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